The Great Debate

They also both came out in '83.

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Mummer's the much better album, but R.E.M.'s the much more normalfag band.

rem fucking sucks

they fucked up the digital remastering on murmer, listen to an original on vinyl and its one of the greatest recorded albums ever made.

Mummer, by a fucking long shot.

Murmur is the best debut rock album ever made, and the best REM album

kek

Never really listened to REM albums, but if people so far are saying Mummer's better when XTC made several albums better than Mummer, that's not a good look on REM.

More like the gay debate, only dads who love cock listen to this stuff

Murmur for the ear candy engineering. It turned rock upside down.

Oh, it's a joke.

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Why?

Elderfag here, graduated high school in '83. No one gives a flying fuck about XTC except zoomers, they suck so bad they couldn't even make a splash in the wide-open 80's. Literally only zoomie contrarians would ever say they're worth a listen. When Murmur came out it was just a whisper, no one really caught on to REM until Fables of the Reconstruction. The first REM song I ever heard was Driver 8 off of Reckoning, and I was deep into post-punk in the early 80's. Anyone who says REM sucks doesn't realize that their shitty opinion of REM says a lot more about their basic musical taste and blatant contrarianism than it does about REM. REM WERE the cutting edge in 1983, if there even was an edge - mostly everything was trying to be something new, some succeeded, XTC failed. youtube.com/watch?v=wuFId1RYSZE

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you are not in your 50s.
no on in their 50s says this.
kill yourself

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You have shit taste and should an hero, regardless of how old you are.

Murmur wins and it’s not even close. I like Mummer a fair bit even though it’s not one of XTC’s best, but Murmur is literally a perfect album.

you're legitimately retarded

What did Stipe do to you exactly?

I'm 56 motherfucker, deal with it. I've forgotten more about popular music than you'll ever know, and your refusal to retro-grade your musical taste will eventually lead to utter musical retardation, which is the standard zeitgeist of the new generation. Jesus titty-fucking Christ man, listen to some rock and roll and get over your age-ism.

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Be a faggot who made some of the worst, most overrated music of all time.

you're 100% right