Why are we unwilling to change a band's genre if they're born before the term was invented?
They're clearly pop punk but we still call them punk
Why are we unwilling to change a band's genre if they're born before the term was invented?
Lucas Perez
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Jace Moore
They're both idiot
Jaxon Nguyen
Because "pop punk" as people use it doesn't just mean "pop and punk", punk rock was never not poppy until you start getting into hardcore. "pop punk" refers to a specific style of music that came after the days of Ramones, who are just basic "punk rock", these days people can't seem to understand the difference between the original punk rock sound and hardcore punk.
Luke Wright
>the ramones aren’t le punk
cope from Eurofag worshippers butthurt the origin of punk wasn’t european or politicsfagging
Bentley Reyes
not a lot of people can grasp that rock is a form of pop music. pop music is popular music, meaning music of the people. country, rock, rap, this is all pop music. music that you don't have to be a musician to play
Ayden Collins
Here's real pop punk youtu.be
Kayden Nelson
They're earthrockers
Jeremiah Baker
This. Pop punk has only in common with the original punk the buzzsaw guitars and rock band format
Jacob Torres
Pop music also refers to a certain style within popular music. But you already know this
Angel Garcia
i don't though, Shake It Off is pop, Head Over Heels by Tears for Fears, Black or White by Michael Jackson is pop but those don't have as much in common as Ruby Soho and Basket Case
Luke Green
>Pop music also refers to a certain style within popular music
it doesn't, there's just pop music and the subgenres within it which include rock, hip-hop, dance music, etc. Name one artist, just one, that is just "pop".
Jacob Murphy
I think what they're saying is that people refer to a certain style as just "pop", examples might be Britney Spears, Spice Girls, Lady Gaga, etc....sure you could call it dance pop or some r&b offshoot or whatever, but we all know what it means when someone says "pop" and is referring to that style of music
Kevin Harris
>The everything but classical and folk music is pop music poster is back.
Just ignore. Guy is deranged and argues in bad faith.
Brody Garcia
>make aoli
>few people have ever tasted aoli before
>it's a smash hit
>people refer to you as one of the godfathers of aoli
>your original formula has a little bit of dill in it
>years later
>"Why are we unwilling to change a sauce's name if it's made before the term was invented?"
>"Clearly it was a dill aoli but for some reason we still call it 'aoli' "
Jeremiah Lewis
Punk was barely a term when the Ramones started
Jackson Myers
okay then what would you call youtu.be
Oliver Russell
im from california and i have always unironically considered them pop punk. people who say otherwise are just being pretentious.
Wyatt Moore
learn to read niggear
Nathaniel Brown
It’s punk, it’s where it originated. Punk was always pop influenced
Nicholas Watson
I think the popular usage of the term "pop" has shifted, I think it was probably the 80's when "pop" came to represent a specific style of music instead of a whole sphere of unrelated styles
I say this because I can think of Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston as "pop artists" in the same way we think of modern "pop artists" while in the 70's I think it was still used more broadly
Jaxon Ward
>im from california and i have always unironically considered them pop punk. people who say otherwise are just being pretentious.
So if you think Ramones are "pop punk" what to you is just standard "punk rock" ?