/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>Upgrade & Build Advice
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. video editing, competitive gaming, streaming etc.) and your country.

>News
New CPU and GPU generations later this year
Zen4 release date September 27th

>Recommended form factor
ATX is the standard choice, alternatively ITX or even MATX

>CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 10105
Budget Gaming: i3 12100/F > R5 5500
Gaming: i5 12400/F, R5 5600/X
Multicore: i7 12700F/12900F, R9 5900X/5950X
Best Gaming: i7-12700KF / R7 5800X3D

>GPUs
The true redpill: WAIT

Budget 1080p: Used GTX 1060/1070, GTX 1660 Super RX 470/580
1080p: RTX 3060, RX 6600
1440p: RTX 3070ti, RX 6700 XT
2160p: RTX 3080Ti, RTX 3090, RX 6900 XT
Production: RTX 3090Ti (avoid AMD)

>RAM
Minimum: 2x 8GB DDR4 3200CL16/3600CL18
Recommended:
DDR4: 4x 8GB DDR4 3600CL16 (any rank) or 2x dual-rank 16GB DDR4 3600CL16
DDR5: 2x 16GB 5600MHz Kingston

>PSUs
Silver+ from Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair, EVGA (aim for 75% of total PC power)
cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>SSDs
ssd.borecraft.com/

>Motherboard info:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
overclock.net/threads/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards.1624051/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>Monitors
rtings.com/monitor/
pcmonitors.info/
displayninja.com/buying-guide/

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Will AyyyMD review embargo lift on 20th or was it just random rumor?

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im looking at gpus and why for the same serie gpus, lets say 3090, there are different .. like models i guess?
what i mean is >
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090
Palit GeForce RTX 3090
MSI GeForce RTX 3090
Gainward
ASUS
and so on, are those manufacturers?
if so then is there a difference in the performance of the card if its made from someone else?
Say 3090 from Asus performing better than 3090 from Palit? Because there are couple hundreds difference in the price while the specs being the same
what should i favor when picking?

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Is it worth buying DDR5-5600 now to futureproof? Or are there really cheaper, better latency modules coming?

Those companies, called AIBs made different coolers. They are mostly the same performance but some cool better some worse etc.

>Best Gaming: i7-12700KF
Sounds like you don't know what "best" means when 12700K doesn't win against 5800X3D in any gaming scenario
>RTX 3060
Badly priced against 6600/XT
>RTX 3080Ti, RTX 3090
Badly priced against 3080

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>Sounds like you don't know what "best" means when 12700K doesn't win against 5800X3D in any gaming scenario
Yes it does, retard. Intel CPUs win in Warzone, which is literally the most important game for CPU performance right now.

Waitbros, is it true? Are we finally winning?

Shills always to make the OP so they can pull shit like this.

>Warzone
hahah, ridiculous. But a great example of cherrypicking.

>that picture
Might as well use passive cooling with a giant heatsink that's supported by another wooden beam.

>>RTX 3080Ti
>Badly priced against 3080
lol wtf? there's barely a difference in price now.

Cherrypicking? Are you retarded? It just happens to be the one currently popular competitive FPS where CPU can make a significant/noticeable difference to performance.
It doesn't matter for crap like CSGO or Valorant because there will never be any kind of bottleneck on modern hardware.

I would like to upgrade from a 1070 to a 2070 (unless I find a 3060), in your opinion, how much should I pay for it? I thought about not higher than 200 yuro

Ryzen 5900X now available for $500AUD ($334 USD)

>just random rumor
yup. they said it will be an additional notice on when, but my bet it's either 27th exactly or 23rd because they like thursdays

AMDbros... how do we recover from this?

cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-12700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700X/4119vsm1823386
nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-12700k-vs-amd-ryzen-7-5700x

What you are doing is the definition of cherry-picking. Picking a single game and saying it's the only thing that matters. The vast, vast majority of people won't play it ever. Averages matter much more.
It's a poorly received, shitty and poorly optimized game. The only reason it's winning on intel CPUs is how poorly it's coded.

>where CPU can make a significant/noticeable difference to performance
>It doesn't matter for crap like CSGO or Valorant
That'd be a valid point if you didn't shill the fuck out of intel getting 700 fps vs amds 650fps in those titles. Now that the tables have turned, it doesn't matter anymore.

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so does it matter, should i just pick the cheaper?

I know you're trolling but no one takes userbenchmark seriously

Yeah probably, but look at reviews to make sure there isnt something wrong with it.

Where's the mining GPU flood?

I didn't say it's the only thing that matters you idiot. I said it's the one popular competitive FPS that actually depends on CPU for performance.

>The vast, vast majority of people won't play it ever. Averages matter much more.
>It's a poorly received, shitty and poorly optimized game. The only reason it's winning on intel CPUs is how poorly it's coded.
Is this the famous AMD cope I've heard so much about?

>I know you're trolling but no one takes userbenchmark seriously
You were provided more than just userbenchmark bro.

The i7-12700K absolutely blows away the 5700X across the board. Raptor Lake is beginning to look scary good too.

>the most important game for CPU performance right now.
You said it's the most important game, and you implied that it's more important than wide averages across many games.

>Is this the famous AMD cope
This is what shills sound like when they've been caught and are out of arguements.

>most important game for CPU performance right now.
Says you.
Don't bother he will cherrypick one game and then complain the benchmarks don't use chiller for intel.

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>You said it's the most important game
Read the rest of the sentence where I said that, shill moron.

>You were provided more than just userbenchmark
Here's a tip for your future troll attempts: Don't make it obvious.
When you post a userbenchmark link, applying it's serious, it becomes obvious what you are doing and no one will open that other link you said.

You've lost, AMD bro. It's time for you to let go :)

So now you're saying warzone is not the most important, or what?