How realistic is the technological singularity/immortality...

How realistic is the technological singularity/immortality? Not only do I have the fear that I'm going to be the last asshole to die before they start transferring brains to robot bodies or however it's going to go but also that so so many people I hate will live forever and explore the universe for millions of years

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It's not.

you and all of your kin will be long dead by the time the technology makes it possible.

I truly hope so

There's on particular person that I cringe at the idea of them being immortal while I'm a chunk of carbon in the ground

current technology would only imitate, not preserve or replicate. the mind/life is a balance in motion & observing that motion interferes with the balance. they arent even on level yet, to start learning how to get started. but to oversimplify, theres a zenos paradox issue with precision & acuracy, before we even get into the ship of thesius arguments. acurate precision would nearly require stopping time & making all the right observations without knowing what to look for yet, its largely paradoxical.

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I don't know if we'll ever be able to transfer a brain into a robot (or, more realistically, into some kind of vat-cultured clone). All of the Gedankenexperiments that seem even remotely feasible (like highly accurate scans of the brain that are then loaded into an extremely sophisticated computer) aren't actually paths to immortality. Take Neal Stephenson's novel Fall, or Dodge in Hell, for example. Brains are scanned down to the molecule level and loaded into a vast simulation after the person dies. The person is still dead. Gone. There's a simulated being in the simulation that thinks it's the person who died, and has all of his memories, but the thread is broken; the consciousness that was in the living being evaporated.

Yeah, even *if* we approach the ability to upload consciousness it's still just a copy. Short of directly transplanting a brain into a cybernetic body or some sort of Bloodshot type nanobots, that's all 'technological immortality' will ever be, an imitation of their source.

Maybe that's enough for autizmos who are into the singularity and all that crap.

I used to dwell on this when I was young and coping with my mortality. I’ve done the research and have accepted that there is absolutely no way for me to live longer than is natural. I’m comfortable with that now. And it’s not like people we know will either. It’s so far into the future it’s irrelevant

Thing is even if it does become available, why assume that you'll have access to it? Common muck like most of us will never get the chance even if it's developed.

the ability to make an accurate copy would be the start of neohumanity, provided the copy is accurate enough it is a new life with the same thoughts & experiences, sorta like the star trek transporter. what i meant by imitation is the computer mapping that uses ai to pretend its a person, when it doesnt really even have conciousness.

Have you played soma? They copy people’s consciousness and put them in robots and stuff. A lot of them thiughtnthat if they killed the selves right when the copy is made it would be a seamless transition and they’d carry over. Ended up with a lot of dead retards stinking up the place while a COPY of themselves “lived on”.

This. It's the teleportation problem, but with atheist god

>sorta like the star trek transporter

Like the other user said, it's a Ship of Theseus problem.

inevitably there is time travel & the resurrection of the dead using similar but more complex methods. after this theres the debate of taking a mans death is no different than taking his life, so its good to have a desire for immortality on record for the future when they decide who is worth bringing back.

Who the fuck wants to live forever? That sounds horrific.

I hadn't heard of it before. It sounds interesting.

people dont really fear life, they fear isolation, monotony, forgetting, apathy, & loss.
the way people view living 200 years now isnt that different than living past 40 a few centuries ago. but with more time comes more experience & loss.

200 years is one thing, but forever? Like everlasting consciousness? That sounds like absolute hell

I would assume you'd have the option to opt out whenever you wanted.