When was Intel and AMD compromised?

what year did intelligent agencies officially made a deal that opened the backdoor to these chips?
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2007 or so. It was 1999 for Windows, which was the most common OS on x86 until Intel ME was implemented.

>intelligent agencies
Well there are a lot of smart people working there.

For AMD it was a little later, until 2012 with their bulldozer chips.

>2007 or so
r u serious? i heard it was only a few years ago? so EVERY device within the last 10 years is just a glownigger edition? jfc, kill me plz..
what made them cave in? fkn sell outs

You could use POWER or ARM or something instead.

ARM has trustzone, i think POWER can satisfy all schizos.

>POWER or ARM
r u trolling me? i only see Intel and AMD on newegg for PCs...

ARM doesn’t necessarily have anything, it depends on the manufacturer.

You can get a POWER motherboard from RaptorCS. A dual CPU board is $3,500.

POWER does exist, a POWER motherboard alone (for example. Talos II, which is for POWER9 cpus) may cost as much as your entire PC setup.

tfw no budget schizo desktop

Libreboot an Acer G43T-AM3 and stick a Core 2 Quad in it.

that's a laptop

I wish I could get my hands on something for less than $500 that wasn't fucked. I don't play viyda at all but I do some video and photo editing.

where to buy this? link? i guess newegg is just cheap shit..

If you can live with shit internet browsing, unironically Power Mac G5.

I got the wrong website, sorry.
This is the page for the talos II motherboard that raptorcs sells. Beware it is around $1500 for the lite version last time i checked.
raptorcs.com/TALOSII/

It's also worth noting that POWER is essentially an enterprise ISA, so end user programs are extremely scarce.

Middle of the 90s under Clinton.

A Micro ATX form factor laptop board? You sure?

The main repos for Fedora and Debian 100% support it.

Die, fucking Dunning-Kruger fag.

>Beware it is around $1500 for the lite version last time i checked.

wait.. 1500 for what, CPU? how much is MOBO? can i use regular RAM, PCI cards, etc..? or EVERYTHING gotta be POWER compatible? how much for the whole PC if i build it myself?

also, how 2 know theyre not comprised like Intel/AMD? would they even tell us that? will regular Windows/MacOS/Linux apps work on these?

> apps
Thank you, Steve Jobs, for low-IQ retards like this.

just checked the page. the prices are insane. what do people use these POWER machines for usually?

people? posting neofetch screenshots and/or flexing their open source hardware

You can get a full system for around $7500 dollars, it will work with any ECC DDR4 modules. You can use most new Radeon GPUs, which you should because they have free drivers that work well, unlike Nouveau for Nshitia. It has standard PCIe slots, so any card with a driver for GNU/Linux should theoretically work, but may need to be manually compiled. As I said above all Fedora and Debian applications in their mainline repos should work. I assume other distros support it, but I can’t confirm.

Wintoddler detected. App has been common shorthand for application in the Unix world since before NeXTStep.

Usually for developers working on enterprise POWER systems, such as those employed by IBM for running their cloud services. I honestly don’t know a company that uses POWER besides IBM but I’m sure they exist.

damn.. would be overkill for me to get one of these, even the cheapest one, just to surf the web and check my email dun u think? is this my only alternative not to be spied on by feds? do they have laptops btw?

If you’re just surfing the web then get a libreboot compatible motherboard and use that. A C2Q is more than enough for those tasks.

with those tasks, you can get by with an old thinkpad from 2000's, like an x60 or x200 or something.

a cheap alternative is just browse twitter and facebook, feds arent interested in normies,and after you succesfully hide in plain sight you are free to move your fat ass to a public library and do your shit from there

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Lets be realistic here, the Intel ME and AMD PSP are both able to be verifiable disabled officially and unofficially now. Contrary to popular belief these things weren't just universal backdoors -even Snowden's leaks showed this to be the case with how actual glowies couldn't just connect to anyone through the sekrit backdoor hurrdurr and instead intercepted shit being sent to the target in the mail and soldering on a keylogger or exploit-laden storage inside of the USB thumbdrive you were buying etc.

Anyway, Intel ME and AMD PSP are shitty because of any proprietary bits, butits not like they were only there for for spying or something. The main function was business bullshit, security and the like - similar to the TPM or Secure Boot - all hypothetical security features if they're being used in a way that benefits the user, however its also possible to use them in user-hostile manners. They should have made it optional on day 1, but these days you can disable the thing in a number of ways. Intel's ME is way shittier and farther reaching than AMD's PSP, Users have worked on neutering them for years (mostly on ME at first since it has longer tendrils as it were) but when some security vulnerabilities came up among other issues, Intel and AMD just started to let people disable them. Go check your BIOS and if you have the latest microcode updates you can probably do it there. Some will say the BIOS off switch is only partial, but even at that its a good start. Even better you can put them into "high assurance" mode which disables as well. Ever since 2017 when there were big exploits to the ME (and possibly the PSP) both manufacturers decided it was better to let people disable stuff rather than get totally screwed over when their "most secure " processor element got hacked.

So yeah, while its an issue and we should push to demand verify-disabled and/or open-sourcing what runs on ME/PSP, lets be realistic

Dunning-Kruger fags will call you a glowie.

They aren't, there's a field that researches hardware trojans, things like hardware backdoors, side-channel analysis. If a backdoor was available, they would have found it.