Iemg/ + /pmp/ - In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General

Obsoleted edition

This thread is for the discussion of portable media players and in-ear monitors.

•/iemg/ Recommends HackMD:
hackmd.io/@AyPeeEye/S1sNUVosu

•Extensive PMP Guide:
align-centre.hatenablog.com/entry/2021/06/dap-comparison-2021-06

•Why use a PMP instead of a phone?
>better DAC/AMP
>more output power so it can drive higher impedance headphones
>smaller sizes than phones for activities like exercise
>physical buttons
>headphone jacks
>some people can't use smartphone at work/use dumbphones

•How to request advice:
>Budget
>Source (phone or PMPs)
>Location
>Kind (in-ears or earbuds)
>Sound Signature (or genres you like, important!)
>Past gear and your thoughts on them (important!)

/iemg/ Hall of Fame:
• [Insert meme here]
• CCA CRA (V with good treble extension/VK4 spiritual successor)
• TIn T3 Plus (Mild V)
• Etymotic ER2SE/XR ("Reference" Neutral/Bass boosted neutral)
• Moondrop KATO (Bass-boosted neutral)
• Tanchjim Hana 2021 (Mini-Oxygen with more bass)
• Tanchjim Oxygen (Mild V)
• Moondrop Blessing 2/Dusk (Neutral/Bassbosted neutral)
• [The one that you are using]

/pmp/ Hall of Fame:
• Your phone
• Hiby R3 Pro / Pro Saber
• Sony NWA-55 + Mr Walkman mod
• Fiio M11+

/USB/BT DAC/ Hall of Fame:
• Tempotec Sonata HD Pro
• e1da 9038s/d
• Qudelix 5K
• CX-Pro Audio 31993

/TWS/ Hall of Fame:
none, stop asking

Old thread:

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Other urls found in this thread:

head-fi.org/threads/blon-in-ear-monitors-impressions-thread.916702/page-257#post-15814248
head-fi.org/threads/blon-in-ear-monitors-impressions-thread.916702/page-186#post-15548987
amazon.com/Parts-Express-Stereo-Lightweight-Headphones/dp/B0002KQZJS
rg.squig.link/earbuds/
scarbir.com/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YNuslYM4CrhMPrOLofzTm4ei7HEfP8AI1zxswrMw2ho/
scarbir.com/tws/baseus-w12-review
pw.squig.link/?share=PaulWasabii_Target,KZ_EDC
pw.squig.link/?share=PaulWasabii_Target,KZ_EDC,CCA_CRA
aliexpress.com/item/1005001677110131.html
hbb.squig.link/?share=Diffuse_Field_Target,Sony_MH755,CCA_CRA
head-fi.org/showcase/yincrow-x6.22393/reviews
audiobudget.com/product/KZ/EDR2
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

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>precuck: MEST tonality 7.00
>also precuck: Aladdin tonality 4.67

uhh precuckbros? is he retarded?

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Why are these graphs the same

You didn't realize sooner?

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same earphone

CCA CRA

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*cotton not included
*tinnitus may ensue

Have an etymotic er2se that I use from time to time while working. However, I suspect I produce more (?) ear wax by using it. How anons deal with it?

By growing the fuck up and starting to use headphones

Headphones are garbage.

explain to me whatever the fuck does ufc faggotry have to do with iems?

Upgrade to Moondrop KATO.

pre-obsoleted by MH755
mogged hard by TaoTronics SoundLiberty 69 TWS

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It has a direct relationship with making you mad

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>""""upgrade""""
lol. lmao

I use headphones too, this is not the issue.
When I use the er2se I do so due the portability and good audio. I'm more interested in knowing if anons have this same problem and if they do something to mitigate it (is more periodic ear cleaning necessary or something, or my genetic lottery sucks that bad?)

Earwax is really complicated, because too little or too much can be genetic, but too much also might be an indicator of an ear infection that can only be diagnosed by a proper doctor.

So if you really want to solve this, go see an ear doctor and tell him that you believe the earwax is building up too fast and you want to know if your ear is fucked or is there nothing you can do. This is the only way to know.

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butifel...

katobros.... I am not feeling too well...

why

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Katosisters....hold me im literally shakin rn

Daily reminder to take your meds and learn how to read graphs.

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>Etycock ARSE
Sorry I am not gay.

CRAbros, I am not feeling too well... If we got chinked by that Cringecle chink again I am going to commit sudoku.

cope

Yeah, I think I'll see one to make sure then.

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cra is an upgrade to the zsn
don't listen to retards and shizos

SS+ for Sibilant Shit plus tinnitus

CRA is a slight upgrade to EDX Pro (same as Tanchjim Oxygen)
One could say that EDX Pro is the progenitor of overhyped resonant chi fi shit

That's Tin hifi user

Goddess.
Earphones, IEMs, Closed-backs, Open-backs, near-field monitors and speakers have different use cases and different sound signatures. Headphones (either closed or open back) are no replacement for earpones or iems.

If you want to tell someone to grow up, then tell them to upgrade to speakers/monitors.

Good cheap aliexpress tips to leave on my iem's when I'm too lazy to switch my nice ones on (for small ear canals)?

moondrop spring tips

oh well, guess I'm not seeing tips effect on an existing graph
and the cotton thing is years old
more crazy mods on his links
head-fi.org/threads/blon-in-ear-monitors-impressions-thread.916702/page-257#post-15814248
head-fi.org/threads/blon-in-ear-monitors-impressions-thread.916702/page-186#post-15548987

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The only headphones that are worth it are koss ksc75 and you are a fucking retard if you say otherwise.

I like my cras, they are an upgrade to my best iem which is zsn
no one can tell me a better one in the price range anyway

Swap to earbuds for long periods of time/work. Use iems when you need noise isolation/want to enjoy the music.

too bad the retarded earhook design is uncomfirtable

I mean $1-2 ones for iems that come with shitty stock ones. Just for when I don't want to find whatever iem's my nice ones are on and swap. effort.

what price range? up to $12?

>*laughs in HD 681*
My excuse is that the Superlux was cheaper than KSC75. Also I am a bassnigger, KSC75 has no bass.

>cotton can damage your iem
I would not advocate using cotton mods on more expensive ones, but who gives a fuck if $15 CRA gets "broken" from cotton - just buy another one!

Does diffuse field tuning actually sound good with music?

yeah
more like 15

$3 AliExpress band and you have the perfect lightweight headphones

mh755
samsung/akg buds
apple earpods

all shit on CRA

he means if you put it behind the filter, not in the tip

link? could never find it

>mh755 discontinued, can't even get original with sbh cause that gets counterfeit too
>Sam/akg bought one, sounds love me trash, clearly fake as well
>earpods >apple
so there isn't anything
quarks look better than mh anyway and I ordered one too
going to take 3 months to get here..

>""""slight upgrade""""
>costs almost double

$6 on Amazon if you can't find it elsewhere
amazon.com/Parts-Express-Stereo-Lightweight-Headphones/dp/B0002KQZJS

>quarks look better than mh anyway and I ordered one too
retarded people keep making poor decisions one after the other
kinda sad but understandable

cool. don't care
will keep enjoying my cra
will put cotton in it

just put cotton in your ears you won't be needing them soon anyway

The clips suck you're supposed to do one of these with it one of these
Retrospekt headband ($30)
Portapro headband ($30) comes with ksc35 drivers and folds
Sportapro headband ($22) comes with ksc35 drivers and folds
Parts Express headband ($5)
I have them all I like the Sportapro and Parts Express headband the best (both for being most portable) but that might be unpopular opinion. I don't have the issue some people do with hair getting stuck in Portapro/Sportapro/Parts Express. Retrospekt is the solution to that though.

Get a ksc75 bro
HD681s are budget over ears good for what they are but
KSC75 is the endgame on ear pretty much
and the endgame for everything you do with headphones that doesn't involve music imo

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listened for a week already, where's the tinnitus, schizo?

famous last words

>Sennheiser 560S on sale
Why? Isn't it pretty much the best headphone?

don't know, maybe he doesn't care about headphones
he opened a squig for earbuds too
rg.squig.link/earbuds/

yes and it's retarded af
this is how an earbud is supposed to measure

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cra bros just can't stop winning

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Nobody knows how earbuds are supposed to measure, not even the people making them.

>>amazon.com/Parts-Express-Stereo-Lightweight-Headphones/dp/B0002KQZJS
This is the Parts Express headband, Yurops can get it cheaper right from the Parts Express website too I think.
There's another style of cheap chink headband compatible with the KSC-75 too, it gets mistaken with Parts Express sometimes because of an amazon seller. That one's alright too.
Just be careful with KSC75 to not detach/reattach the drivers from stuff too often and when you do pull them off along the way the thing is aligned not against it. If you switch between a headband and ear clips a lot it wears down over time.

you're just engaging in pointless demagogy out of ignorance
if an earbud doesn't have a severe sub bass rolloff then measurements are incorrect

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obsoleted by CRA...
not even memeing, he unironically the only reviewer ranked it S tier

don't get how cra supposed to fuck my ears when I had zsn for years and I'd didn't fuck my ears
just don't listen on high volume
incidentally, is there any way to reduce bass without eq? I don't have peq on my phone and its a bit much
would blocking the vent do anything?

bggar and PW ranked it pretty good
of course bggar moved onto his 10 collabs right after so he doesn't even answer questions about cra anymore, and PW said treble was too much for him but then posted rgs foam mod I think

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>if an earbud doesn't have a severe sub bass rolloff then measurements are incorrect
Well that's obvious. I meant the treble measurements and treble target, you can't just use an IEM target for something that's not an IEM. I didn't even open his link.

So the KXXS, Starfields, Aria, and Kato are all the same? What's the point?

People will buy ANYTHING if you pair it with an anime girl.

It literally doesn't matter because they are all obsoleted by CRA.

No point crying over spilt milk. Katobros won, decisively and unequivocally.

same as any other company, to trick you I to buying more

If you can call them people

>katobros won

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>IT'S OVER, KATOBROS
IT'S OVER, KATOBROS
>IT'S OVER, KATOBROS
IT'S OVER, KATOBROS

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Blonbros... We did it. Time to dust them off and pay tribute to Meatloaf.

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>anime
they're literally and technically chinese cartoons, user.

Akros called CRA the best iem up to $100.

>This jungle gook shit is different from this chink shit
There is no difference.

>69
nice, can't stop winning

also is this why bggar doesn't want to compare to cra anymore?

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What's the current $250-$300 meme

CRN X SEEAUDIO MIDNIGHT

trash

yes but that's what he asked for

are the tinnitus memes real? I read these posts and my ears started hurting
is it just psychological? I haven't even put iems in today

Whose reviewer is that?

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why do you call headphones monitors? Also what's the best wireless in-ear? Jabra or Sony? Or is it worth going expensive like B&O

scarbir.com/
I think people here say they are all shit

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YNuslYM4CrhMPrOLofzTm4ei7HEfP8AI1zxswrMw2ho/

>FiiO FD5 is also S tier according to RG

I'm beginning to see a pattern...

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>mfw many of you fell of the janny tranny kato shill

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Based Baseus W12 is the best sub $20 Budget TWS endgame

scarbir.com/tws/baseus-w12-review

fr doko

>is it just psychological?
Placebo effect is very real, yes, and can amplify the feeling of tinnitus because your are concentrating really hard to hear it.
Though keep in mind that literally everybody has tinnitus and bluepilled normies can go their entire lives without realising they were hearing it all the time in silence.
In my country we even call it "piercing silence" and everyone I know understands what it means.

thanks

>FiiO FD5
annnd yet another EDX Pro look alike graph...

Dont fucking edit my messages you retarded janny, I spelled it correctly

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the plot thickens
EDX Pro is lowkey S+ tier because why pay more

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that makes a lot of sense
though I had actual kind of pain in my left ear, I tgink its gone now

I think I'll trust a guy who plays violin and piano more over some schizo on Any Forums screeching about tinnitus

I asked for the best, not the cheapest. I'm not poor.

no love for precog anymore?

What's a good counterpart to Starfields? I like mine a lot but apparently the sound signature is "boring". What would be more exciting?

Idk about memes I have had tinnitus from birth and didn't know people can actually hear nothing.

Snoy XBA-N3

I don't know him, tell me about him user

korean-american, likes k-pop and 64 audio u12t

what does he think of cra
also I don't listen to kpop

he thinks it has better technicalities than the zex pro despite both using same driver

I don't know if I had it from birth but I can't fall asleep unless its silent and I hear it

>zex pro
meant to say edx pro

well, I don't know what technicalities are but cool I guess

technicalities should be the least of concern for a cra user

>Budget
Source (phone or PMPs)
iPod Classic
>Location
US
>Kind (in-ears or earbuds)
IEM
>Sound Signature (or genres you like, important!)
Post-punk, visual kei, metalcore
>Past gear and your thoughts on them (important!)
BL03 lol. I think I could do better for the kind of music I like.

>BL03 lol. I think I could do better for the kind of music I like.
EQ the bass down 5db. Anything below $100 is a sidegrade for BL03

I agree with
If you really want something "different" get CRA with your disposable savings.

I disagree with
Do not get CRA under any circumstances, it's poorly tuned and causes permanent hearing damage.

Thanks guys. If it's a software fix that costs $0 I'll take it.

There's a hardware fix but it's $50. Use LSQ 170hz Q 0.55 -3 to 6db according to preference.

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AirPods Pro

Goku is an honorary black guy. The bass in his target is ridiculous.

I got some WF-1000XM3 for work and I have to say these things are impressive. Don't buy them for retail, but the tech is definitely comfy.

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he considers them waifu material, clearly.

Which of the 2 is warm-fi endgame?

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Freezer is back.

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Redpill me on freezer?

P1+

I bought these on a whim from a Slickdeals discount a while ago. They suck. Not even worth it to me as a backup pair.
They stick out so far on the sides making them incompatible with any physical activity. Plus they catch all the wind noise from being so un-aerodynamic.

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will you kill yourself already or take your pills

he's genuinely retarded
he's measuring how an earbud would sound through a bud to iem adapter
projection of someone who's going to kill himself when ringing becomes unbearable

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>Goku is an honorary black guy.
youre not wrong

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Nah, I got them for the ANC and sound quality and they definitely deliver, especially for the $60 I paid. I'd never work out in them, if you need angry black men rapping in your ears to burn fat, then you were NGMI.

how are you supposed to do it? buy a separate rig for earbuds?

>how are you supposed to do it?
put it into a dummy ear
> buy a separate rig for earbuds?
or don't graph at all if you don't have the means
according to his graph Moondrop Chaconne is 8.3dB louder at 20hz than 1000hz. That's top shelf retardation and I would've been embarrassed to publish that but apparently it's not a problem for RG.

why dont someone mention it to him
you guys always shit on everything but never actually tell anyone any useful information to improve

>cotton
oh you havent seen shit yet

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I'm telling you to ignore his buds database for it essentially being worthless and refer to tgx78 measurements instead, that's useful information
why would I tell that to him, he's a grown boy and should've figured that graphing how different buds sound through a bud to iem adapter is a worthless endeavor

thats due to a destitute jannie called Fission, he might be unable to even stand up due to his own weight

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im just observing
i dont have any buds
and the only one i ordered is the stellar which no one graphs anyway, and its gonna be here in probably 3 months cause of chineese ny
i dont even know how buds supposed to sound

>i dont even know how buds supposed to sound
Like shit. People use them because non existent isolation enhances the perception of soundstage and allows them to hear people

huh... i guess thats alright for 3$
my iems are half out of my ears anyway when im just at the computer, it gets very sweaty sitting all day with them in

which cra mod should i use
should i just stick to cotton

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>CRA the best iem up to $100
CRA are good for $15 but anyone who says they're the best

cotton overkills the already over the top bass, use a little if you will

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throw it into the trash mod
works wonders for your hearing health and listening fatigue

name them

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>preventing tinnitus is bait
/iemg/ 2022

>10 minutes of google
>"tinnitus isnt caused by iems its caused by loud sounds"
pills

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Sony MH755 are better than CRA. They retailed for $10. End of.

too bad you cant buy them anymore then huh

Tanya shits all over CRA.

Bought some last week. Too bad you're incapable of using Google then huh.

For 10$?

even sbh24 are counterfeit now, user posted video about it a thread or two ago

already ordered quakrs, ill see how they compare
looked more distinct from cca than tanya

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Dynamic Ears bought Z1R and stopped posting

MEST is bright af stop smoking crack

what's not bright?

ier-m9

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Should I?

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mid-bass garbage

I listen to metal

Ovrer 3000 etymotics of treble

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i equalized to m9 and it sounds brighter

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>even sbh24 are counterfeit now
Genuine are available. You can still buy them. They're better than CRA.

it was real in your mind

Nothing is better than CCA CRA

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Let's say I bought fake MH755. Okay. They still sound better than my CRA. CRA is worse than some £1 chink knockoffs. Now what?
Why are you guys so fervent in your defence and shilling of a mass produced Chinese product?

...

Is there a guide somewhere on which sound signatures are best for which genres?

Baseus W12

>CRA ranked wayy higher than Blessing 2
i dont even know who's shilling what anymore..

edx pro doko?

CCA CRA is just overpriced EDX Pro

>Phenomenal upper-treble
>Has to fix it with aftermarket mods
>Unironically uses the words 'holographic soundstage'
Yeah, I think it's safe to ignore this guy.

damn, what will i do without my 2 dollars that i would have to spend on filters and tuning foam anyway to make it as good

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ok post your link, ill buy them

you got a graph nigga?

Here have a (you)

cant wait for the dq6s review
inb4 the only difference is that bggar put some foam in it

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>1$ more expensive in the kz store
why

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the only meaningful difference between the kanas variants is their appearance, and this is the best-looking one of them all.

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Tbf that was an sbh20 bought off taobao or some shit

>cra is just an edx pro with a better shell and filter
what would happen if i put a vk4v2 driver in a cra shell?

>CCA CRA rank mogs Kato, Blessing 2, Oxygen, literally everything
Yeah, I think it's based

are you saying the graph isn't the real ones? what's even the point

I did, for my library they're superb - open back staging, love it.

i'm sorry to hear that. they're awful.
they don't.

CCA CRA

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why lmao

I wasn't saying that at all, I was talking about the video with the fake sbh20. Unrelated to that graph.

give me cheapest the least fatiguing iem or earbud, I love how cra sounds with my music but watching loud vtubers/streamers /videos which all have different levels and no fucking consistency or proper editing makes my ears actually hurt
fuck why can't these people at least use a compressor
anyway I can get a compressor on my end so my ears don't get nuked all the time? its a problem I have with all iems I have, best I figured to dump bass and treble on eq almost completely down and run at 5% volume or I start getting headaches after couple hours

>AliExpress
>"""Official Store"""
>They're all just recursive dropshipper
Do you all burgers enjoy overpaying? Begging to get chinked? It's just under $6 if you find a real uncucked seller.

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what's the point of buying all this shit if mest is too expensive and you can equalize iems you have to mest

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Also I forgot to say im a jannie on suicide watch

Consider KZ EDC. Its is actually KZ's cheapest and darkest non fatiguing iem

pw.squig.link/?share=PaulWasabii_Target,KZ_EDC

Thanks, hope I dont kill myself with how shit my life is

so how do you even get the original? at that point might as well just buy quarks or tanyas

thats not aliexpress...

i dont know those peaks look kinda bad

vs cra
pw.squig.link/?share=PaulWasabii_Target,KZ_EDC,CCA_CRA

yea but the 2-4k region
and id rather something with less peaks... is there no way to have something like quarks but without the 3k peak and more gradual trebble roll off

Retarded malaydog bro farang don't have shopee/lazada

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Ier-M7 is warmest endgame. Someone post the graph I'm shitting rn.

CCA CRA

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dont forget the better shell of the cra

Damm mest mk2 looks pretty fucking good
This fr + 15k waterfall fix should be divine

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Anything sounds good with CCA CRA, even this jap shit.

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>tfw cant hear above 16k at all
should i even care about this shit?

>what's not bright?
/iemg/ & /hpg/

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same
can i get iems for this feel

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Yes because ppl aren't deaf

why should i care about other people

If my phone can pair with my AZ09 Pro but my PC can't see it does it mean I need a bluetooth dongle or something? Using whatever onboard bluetooth is on my shitty ASRock motherboard.

whats the most neutral most flattest or mid centered iem earbud thats cheap

how do i import squigs into REW?

Have you attached the antennae to the motherboard? Should be located at the rear I/O area

er2se
dunno if theres something cheaper, t2+ i guess?

>er2se
>cheap
>t2+
>neutral

Yep and use BT all the time. Just won't find my AZ09 Pro.

>100$
wew

Chinks dont make good flat neutral iems thats what you have to pay. Er2se periodically goes on sale for less on Adorama.

Why are there so many fucking targets from literal whos?

eh... thanks
i think ill try get into eq and modding.... not ready to pay so much

target = preference

Finally got my CRA after it got lost in the mail impressions:
Only sent me 1 size small eartip, which isn't a big deal, but its not the best first impression when I wear S and SS. If I hypothetically didn't already own a bunch of tips it would be unusable.
Definitely noticed treble harshness out of the box, but the first tracks I listened to were tracks that would bring that out.
I pretty much immediately modded them with low density tuning foam + tanchjim filters and applied eq to the ~5k and ~8k. Sound like pretty good bass nigger iem's now. The nozzles don't go quite deep enough to seal with any tips but I can get it decent by wearing larger than normal size. That's a personal problem my ears are picky with fit.
I'm not a fan of V signatures in general but for $12 they will serve just fine as my bassnigger iem's for the small handful genres I think that sounds good on & movies. I think its a good buy for someone who isn't going to daily drive anything with a V signature but wants one to mess around with. FWIW the bass sounds good without totally annihilating the mids.

>Only sent me 1 size small eartip
what the fuck?
was it not packaged properly?

also you know any non v shape cheap ones?

Yeah everything was normal, just with a extra medium tip replacing one of the small ones. Not that I would ever use them they're kinda bad tips but lol.
Most chinkshit is tuned V its what chink ears like. You start seeing more neutral tuned iems around the price the etymotics are.

>non-v shape
kz edr2? doesnt look that v-shaped

I don't have a problem with the targets on any level but linguistic nuance. In this community targets are just preferences and it would be better to label them as such. Calling them targets creates pretensions of, or brings up negative associations with, authority that's irritating to a lot of people.

where do you even find a graph for them?

google??

okay
what now

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found one but its not very enspring and its edr1 not 2...
guess chinks do really like their vshape

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quarks looks flat enough i guess if you eq out the 3k mountain

Tin P1+ probably has the flattest graph I've seen but it's not really cheap

are quarks a meme or indeed as good as some people claim?

>not on the official store
>30$ on some other store with 6 sales, everything else is 0 sales
is it weird this freaks me out
they look real flat tho, except that weird peak in the end, would buy if they were 15...

i mean they are cheap, probably the smallest iem, and look somewhat flat if you eq the 3k
also you get a waifu in the box

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Memer than cra

a target is something you are trying to hit. that's why some of them are called "preference targets".

the graphs ive seen werent from squig.link
all of them were just jpegs/png so comparisons might be difficult

RG ranks them D+, "decently tuned bright-neutral"
there are plenty of pretty good reviews on headfi and whatnot, but i really dont know if theyre huffing their own farts over there
lots of reviews on youtube too, most prefer tanyas to them though (except they are x2 price and a lot more bass lower minds and trebble)

Cca cst?
It's more of a u-shape

kek

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make this new thread image

I don't know much about hi-fi and IEMs in general, I'm just looking for a cheap replacement for my KZ Zsn Pro since my cable broke and I thought that it would be nice to try something different.

quark chads cant stop winning
most popular moondrop iem

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>P1 Plus for 30 bucks
Where?

quarks should be pretty different to zsn
if you want an upgrade to zsn get the cra, its similar, but more bass and better high frequency

aliexpress.com/item/1005001677110131.html

also cra cable is compatible with zsn, but quarks cable is built in

The purpose of a target is to be hit, so the word carries the authority that it must be hit. While attaching the word preference mutes that intrinsic assertion it remains. Some people will chafe at it, because why does Joe Blogg's target deserve to be hit? Additionally, many more closely associate the word more with government and corporate jargon than with the word itself.
I have extensive experience in politicising and depoliticising language to align with directives thanks to my exceptionally tedious gig as a corporate writer specifically concerned with creating style guides with whole sections regarding association charged words when appealing to broad vs special populations and all sorts of minutiae relating to those concerns. God, my life is fucking thrilling.

That's the T1+, P1+ is $100+ and has nothing in common besides the brand itself

oh, too tired to read the alphabet
well fuck that even more, im getting into eq
its probably easier to eq down than to eq up

>The purpose of a target is to be hit, so the word carries the authority that it must be hit.
no it doesn't. you're inventing a lot of bullshit to complain about something that nobody else has trouble understanding.

Nah it's worse than cra and i don't even like cra a whole lot. Would rather use mh755 or vk4v1.

you already have those budget kings, why'd you buy the cra bro?

yeah, I was considering the cra, but started to wonder if quarks could offer me something that the zsn pro/cra couldn't.

I got the jabra elite 75t's for 120 cad on sale from 200 a month ago. I got my koss ksc75 for 25 bucks 2 years ago. charging the jabras are annoying, the sound is good but the koss is still better being open back. I only use the jabra for calls. be like me, get the ksc75's and enjoy life.

finding more about modding
so if you tape off the vent it increases bass
if you increase the vent it decreases bass
found something like this
or you can use a rubber band there

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Left one earned them $15860, right one earned them $42750.

its something like this
quarks have a lot less bass, flatter highs that drop off after 10k, only problem is the 3k peak you can eq out if it bothers you, so its more neutral and less fatiguing id guess

cras have very good trebble at high frequencies which can be tiring and big bass
but compared to zsn the peaks are less so technically its an upgrade, but its not going to be much different

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Just wanna satisfy my curiosity. Not that they're bad, it just wasn't up to my taste.

dont know why gokus graph for cra look so much better
bggars graph is way different too

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cras look pretty good here
i really dont get about all this graph shit, its confusing

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damn you math magician

Meanwhile cra have 880+ orders

user said this combination hisses a while ago. I don't get any more hiss than the typical low volume bluetooth hiss or my other devices*
*ran through a qdc -> mmcx adapter

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already? damn

thats pretty nice i guess, how noticeable is it?
is that the PRO version of the bluetooth thing?

Yeah az09 pro
Only noticeable at really low volumes or low-medium volumes if the audio is really thin like spoken word. Good enough for wireless since = on the go = need to drown out background noise = usually going to have volume up anyways. I'm not connected to a source that supports aptX adaptive so it'd presumably be better quality since the pro one supports it even though they don't advertise it.
Same level of hiss on my headphones, which is what I got it for.

>Kato more than 2x the price of Aria
I really can't justify it from the graphs but the Aria looks pretty gaudy with those gold accents

it's something you wear, so the appearance matters.

A hiss is a hiss. Other bluetooth devices with hiss are unacceptable as well.

why
based

cool, thanks user
you ever try them with a PC?

cras slightly hiss on wire too, I ordered dongle for it

Every tws has audible hiss at minimum volume. I don't think its possible not to have it.
Thats normal if you're plugging it into a phone or computer's sound card. They're both noisy places even if the chip is good. Just means its more sensitive than what you were using before it. Even the cheap dongles are way better sources it'll fix that when you get it in the mail.

yea in fucking April... lol
this Chinese NY fucked me

my kBear stellar won't even get sent till the 10th, they took off like more than a week ago for the holiday

Qudelix doesn't hiss so it's not inherent to bluetooth, just to amps TWS use.

quedelix also costs 10 times more

You either have auditory hallucination (my condolences) or more likely to be underage (fuck off faggot).

F
The step up in quality from from phone/pc source to even the cheapest ex
Real world most phones don't modulate volume low enough for it to be audible over anything so it covers my portable needs. I'm using a wire if I'm worried about fidelity anyways.

I don't think he's comparing them other than to say it doesn't have audible hiss at low volumes. quedelix is a box you plug a wired headphone/iem into that then pairs to a device, az09 pro are dongles that convert headphones/iems to ""true wireless"" where there's no wire or anything involved. They're for totally different use cases, ignoring price and quality.

If you’re a true audiophile, you should be able to guess the price of thread two IEM

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You need BT 5.2 and BLE. Most likely ur pc uses older bt version

purple 50 yellow 25

Is bone conduction good yet?

>flat
>er2se
This. The hardest pill to swallow for /iemg/. Anyone who disagree is poor, deaf, and have mental illness

not him but if my phone only has 5.1 I can't use them?

of course I'm fucking poor, why else would I be here

Diffuse field target is all you need.

diffuse my ass cause I'm constipated and only +10db on bass can get it flowing again
(I wish cheap iems existed with something other than Harman v shape)

quarks are actually very close to diffuse when I look at it
wonder if I can find how to vent it so bass drops
maybe mod some holes into the tips

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"""Reviewer targets""" are a meme. Use Diffuse Field target bro. This explains why MH755 is more tolerable than CRA

hbb.squig.link/?share=Diffuse_Field_Target,Sony_MH755,CCA_CRA

top zozzle. is this the onions face of iemg?

Deaf old hag

well shit. figures. i am going to literally shit in my pants, right here right now if p1 costs $30

and what makes diffuse more valid than harman?
also holy fuck 755 has EVEN MORE BASS than cra, god jesus save me

I’m not him, but I suppose he was advising you against reviewer targets, not Harman. Reviewer targets are IEF, Banbeu, Precog and so on. DIffuse Field is considered the reference but bear in mind that it might sound bass-light and quite bright to most people. Harman 2017 and 2019 have a pretty high bass shelf. Harman 2013 is probably still the best Harman target.

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Good if normie
If autist no

First time posting here. My music taste ranges from female japanese vocals-centered rock music to western doom metal.
I very much emphasize on the instruments themselves but I don't want the vocals, especially that of the japanese singers, to lose quality.

Should I go for NICEHCK DB1 or CCA CRA?

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monarch mk2

oh no I don't consider review targets anything other than personal preference
also putting quarks on the diffuse graph makes me a lot more excited to get them

>$999
no thanks, my budget is $25

should probably look up actual reviews that focus on similar library
that said cra is pretty good regardless, don't know anything about db1

why are you so fervently shilling busted, old, unusable shit like mh755? it's harmud shit that rapes your ears with 3k gain.

that's sub-bass

>*heaviest

Tanya after eq, the highs roll off pretty fast.

MEST is interesting but nuking upper mids isn't natural sounding. you're gaining artificial clarity by trading very smooth response in one region for a crater in another.

to destroy your hearing, yes.

Tanya if you care about vocals more. CRA if you care about metal more.

I got it to work by repeatedly pairing and unpairing. behaves and pairs between devices normally now.

katobwos....we won?

Tin T2 plus

any earbud bros around?
what's the difference between different vido colors? user from several threads ago suggested red one, and its the more expensive one too, does it have different driver? wish there were graphs

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Katobros... there is no point... we already lost...

Some guy in the head-fi earbud thread measured them but good luck finding anything in that thread its massive. They are all measurably different, and I think same driver for all.

found this
guess I'll look into it more tommorow
this is the only review

apparently foam is tuning them

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To make Katochuds and CRAPajeets seethe

kek don't remember how I got here but the second review has all the video variants graphed, compared with nicehck and x6
head-fi.org/showcase/yincrow-x6.22393/reviews

I guess checks out
I don't get how v shape is supposed to be balanced though, I thought they were opposites

all around black sounds like the one to go for to me

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basado

He's probably speaking V shaped relative to the other ones &/or accounting for earbuds having inherently weak bass.

I mean he says also tat the differences are pretty small either way
but on the graph the white most bassy one and the black least bassy one is only a couple db apart
it does look like a tangible difference you could get from tuning foam...

one comment said they they might just be recolors now, but on shops they cost different, red ones more expensive, white ones least
maybe just china things

maybe I'll get the white ones if you're saying earbud bass is weak
after the cra I'm getting scared of bass

Usually bass is pretty tame earbuds don't seal on your ear like iems do.

What cabul is that user?

oxytrash stock cable

Hey that's me. Don't bother with any Vido other than Red and White....and even White is just shittier Red.

Ew that's kind of disgusting. Looks good with the CRA though.

is red just white with more treble? cause I'm fine with less trebble
you know any Ali shops that are good for them or is anything fine?
on the shop I found whites cost 2$ and reds over 3$ which is kinda interesting

Tanya or memedrop quarks? I want a pair of cheapo bullets

tanya or mh755

ordered quarks cause of this
no idea what I'm doing though, the lines seem pretty when they align
Tanya's get a lot of accessories though

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looks like olina and mest
$25 vs $200

quarks have impressive timbre from graph
I wonder if there's a vent near nozzle since I would block those and use quarks for music production if that's the case.

apparently there isn't a vent at all

EDR1 is bass+sparkle
3k-6k-(8k) is the average old earphones tuning which are still popular.
audiobudget.com/product/KZ/EDR2
EDR2 is probably warmer on mids but if you want much warmer mids you might want to try faaeal poppy which has nicer timbre (no shout on any genre).

oh that sucks. that must mean the bass is weak or unable to move back and forth.

Kill yourself fission