Why after so long of trying to get fit I have made literal zero progress...

Why after so long of trying to get fit I have made literal zero progress? Doesn’t help that I’m having back and shoulder pains recently that keeps me from going to the gym. I think I may kms soon if my situation doesn’t change soon. Should I just get a personal trainer or do fucking trt or something? My life just keeps getting worst and worst and I may kms soon it I can’t do something about it

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you arnt gonna kys because you're a fucking wimp fag
go pin some roids and get juicy as fuck and stop crying like a bitch

Post routine and diet.

I was following an upper and lower 4 days a week program with trying to mantain my weight and making sure I get about 140grams a protien from clean sources. I’m only 150 lbs at 5’7 rn. Used to be 180lbs

Yeah your probably I am a bitch
Maybe i should just bite the big one

>trying to mantain my weight
there's your problem
eat big 2 get big
NEXT

Well I was actually bulking for a little but made shit progress And mostly gained fat maybe be cause I was already high bodyfat

Well, assuming you lost 30lbs of fat, that's a good thing, ain't it?
And now you can instead actually eat more. Like why are you maintaining your weight at a measly 150lbs? Did nobody ever tell you that muscle has weight?

Even after losing 30 lbs I still got a lot of fat in my stomach and everything I do try to bulk I just gained fat and barely any fat. I think I may be retarded

10 sets minimum per muscle group per week
+250 kcal daily
1-2 reps in the tank

It ain't rocket science

>upper and lower 4 days a week program
Post program. Were you actually following it, including progression guidelines? How many calories a day is your maintenance, and how often did you overshoot? Do you actually have that info, or were you trying to eat "intuitively?"

Better yet, how long have you even been lifting?

> trying to maintain my weight

Greg Doucette got another one

Eat a moderate calorie surplus, then. You don't have to go the GOMAD route, you know. Especially not at 150.
Tell us your routine in full, as well as your method of progression. Current lifts would also help.

You have a lot of fat because you have no muscle because you don't eat so your muscles don't grow

Also do direct ab training

Upper Lower 4 day week a split
Body Workout #1
1. Bench Press: 3 sets x 5 reps
2. Pull-Up/Lat Pulldown: 3 sets x 5
3. Barbell curls 3 sets x 5
4. Dips 3 sets x 6–12 rep
Lower Body Workout #1
1. Squat: 3 sets x 5 reps
2. Leg press 3x12
3. Leg curls 3 sets x 6–12 reps
Upper Body Workout #2
1. Overhead Press: 3 sets x 5 reps
2. Pull-Up/Lat Pulldown: 4 sets x 6–12 reps
3. Close-Grip Bench Press/Dips: 3 sets x 6–12 reps
4. Dumbbell Row: 3 sets x 6–12 reps
5. Optional tricep exercise: 3 sets x 6–12 reps
6. Optional bicep exercise: 3 sets x 6–12 reps
Lower Body Workout #2
1. Deadlift: 3 sets x 5 reps
2. Front Squat: 5 sets x 5 reps
3. Optional additional leg exercise: 3 sets x 6–12 reps

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I’ve been pretty consistent since January. I’ve tried in the past but would usually give up after a few months but this time I feel I was doing a good job doing a routine

So you've been following a reasonable program for eight months, lost thirty pounds, and you're here asking if you need a personal trainer or gear? You need a reality check. You were a fat ass, now you're not, and that's more than most people manage to pull off in that length of time. Circle back to getting a trainer and gear once you've been consistent for two years and actually know what you're doing.

I lost that weight 2 years ago. Last years I was 140 but gain 10lbs then have been fluctuating between 150-155 lbs since

More or less this. Again OP, you don't have to pound back mcdoubles, but you do have to eat more otherwise muscles don't really have much leeway for growth.
And you've yet to share your progression scheme. Remember OP, as the body adapts to stress then stress needs to increase in order for it to develop more resilient stress adapations. You know, muscles.

Your sets are too easy and you're not eating enough.

3x5 on lat pulldowns?
3x5 on bench?

You need to up the ante, either add sets or reps or more weight on the bar. Nothing beats progressive overload and CALORIES:
The only way you're gonna grow as a natural.

Now don't go start eating 6000 calories of donuts or something dumb, all you need is to add 300 surplus calories.

Also forgot
> 3x5 barbell curls

No, no, no, the biceps need to be punished. I can guarantee you're undertraining your biceps.


3x5 is good for squats and deadlifts, but it's pretty shit for a lot of other exercises