Are they all as sure as they think

/tttt/, I've become increasingly fascinated. Theres some things I have in common with MtFs, I can say this at least. But whats your thoughts on this?

quillette.com/2020/01/02/the-ranks-of-gender-detransitioners-are-growing-we-need-to-understand-why/

Lets be clear. I dont give a shit about trans kids one way or the other. I aint having kids and I cant be fucked to think about trans kids.


But HRT can eg grow perma tits and affects mood. Ive spoken to some who say they did not regret it, but this is from /tttt/ and /soc/, and there can be biased.

Its annoying to me, because I rather like the idea of at least pretending to be female and acting as female. There is a fantasy I have involving being female and I love CDing and have for a long time even when I barely got to do it at all.

>Inb4 focus on what political camp or whatever the author belovs to.
Which by the way I cant make sense of any way. The person who wrote all this seems a bit wacky; not a "natural conservative", yet she goes to a fucking Baptist Church and says she found jeebus. Just this weird miasma of opinions derived from being sexually abused.

She seems to have also turned away from being radfem while at the same time, seemingly maintaining a low-boil fear of men orginating from the semi-deactivated wastes of TERF-ish ideology

Im trying to remove myself from this ATM; my questions and everything, cuz it is not healthy to peruse my thoughts in this way when I have incentives to feel special and less alone, ignore my studies for psych reasons, get a scholarship, get a magic pill, and not feel fucking weird that I ever thought about this. Or the opposite; to abandon this extremely trying train of thought.

At least now I can say I can be far more comfortable with tranners as a bi; I actually think I can love one regardless their decisions and regardless w/e shit opinion I have at the time, so thats nice.

Or fuck maybe Im gay, like, WTF is even going on any more? Oh well

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i'm so glad that happened to you user / i'm sorry that you had to go through that experience

>the most common reason for detransitioning, according to the survey, was pressure from a parent, while only 0.4 percent of respondents said they detransitioned after realizing transitioning wasn’t right for them
Did you even read it fully?

user...
>But again, this claim originates in a study of people who still self-identified as trans at the time they were surveyed. The women with whom I have worked, on the other hand, all detransitioned because they did not feel that transition had addressed their problems; and, in some cases, because they felt that transition had made their problems worse.

...I did read it, yes. I'm not claiming I agree or disagree and I'm trying to psyop you or anything. People are complex.

*NOT trying to "psyoo" you or whatever you may think.

Thank you

MTF detransition basically only ever happens due to external factors. People being shit, not being able to look the part, etc.

I kinda need you to back it up more though.

Okay so IDK if thets directly abd easily answerable or whatever per se.
But how about this?

You said its rare for MtFs. Ehy do you suppose that may be?

*Like why specifically MtFs?

One thing I will say, it does seem s little odd that many of the patients this person sees have cut ties with the trans *community* completely. Thats not something Ive felt to be particularly toxic thus far, even if I had all that happen. Its not a cult. Maybe a little more like wishful thinking if anything.

Another thing that annoys me is the apparent presumption that this fantasy must be something realized in real life or like only people ashamed of their bodies, feeling bad about their bodies would fantasize on a relatively regular basis about becoming a female ateast for a day. That does not seem quantifiable.


The designation is also a bit confusing. What do we call born females? Some of the terms seem annoyingly loaded "assigned female/male at birth" makes it sound like some oppressive presumption. Like they have some factory that stamps you when in reality, most of your biology IS different, aside from the brain.

I think transgender transitioners or ones that want or (when discussed in hypotheticals, retrospect, etc) should probably transition need to be distinguished from people who see things in common with them... Like, they have a desire to be a girl but they dont want to transition for a number of reasons. Its like a fantasy almost like a kink, but its not just sexual.
I mean, if someone gets a particular treatment, thats one thing. Why do some people designste GDs as all trans?

GD != trans. What if they dont have GD, but a consistent positive feeling about becoming female and any harm that comes from it is when this person considers this comes from longing rather than feeling phantom boobs?

I don't think feeling good about looking, acting female need mean you go all the way. Can we really say that's not superficial?

Actually I was wrong in this OP about that editor. I thought this site was a blog thing by one person for some reason, but it isnt. That was a different author who talked about Baptism etc. Still, it is the same site.

And it's just theres so much disinfo and misinfo.

Its really, really irritating

I think that you should stop being a waffling pussy and just transition. Do you really look at this world and think "I'm gonna become a rockstar," as a guy? Do you even look at this world and think, "I'll have a good time," as a guy? What the fuck are you even asking for, like there are pros and cons. You're just scared to take the leap. Stop being a pussy.

It was too early when I made this thread and I fell asleep. Sorry. Also, Im really fucking nervous to read it now for some reason. Bumping for now while I make breakfast.

But like this is a real medical thing.

Okay then I guess I have to look into how long it takes to grow tits and that sort of... Stuff

>Someone removes themselves from the trans community, stops calling themselves trans, and realizes they are homosexual
>That doesnt apply to me. Ive fallen for men and women already
...
But I still need to know about HRT also don't push me cunt this is a lot for me. I dont care about muh regrets.

It is pretty sexy though.

I'm a national socialist, and I've loved Hitler since I was 12

And as a tranny I can 100 percent confirm that estrogen was the greatest thing to ever happen to me.

I can't fight like I used to and I can't get a woman pregnant, but my quality of life has gone up like 20 times.

All my emotions have returned to me, and I'm starting to love myself and dress how I like, and wear makeup and use my new voice, and make cool friends I grew my hair out for the first time since I was a young teen. I feel so happy and free and pretty. People who detransition are just monkey ass fools who don't know anything about themselves and can't handle the fear of being a woman.

Yes you can get beat up, yes you can get used by men, yes it's hard to find true love and it's tough to find a job right now so it's scary to be alone. For most all people in America "being yourself" is too much of a Hassel, so people detrans or repress to try and fit in.

I hope hrt becomes available to teens right when they hit puberty so they don't have to go through the misery that I did. Also if you come out and your parents beat you there should be a new law that puts you in a protected foster home on the child's request.

Once you commit to a transformation you can't go back, the only way in life is forward. If you're going to try backwards youre better off giving your body and soul back to the earth.

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>Medical thing
*Medical treatment
*Drugs
Whatever you'd call it.
Also sorry to for saying you're a cunt? That was harsher than I intended, I just don't want to get pushed too hard cuz Ive had that before and it caused me a lot of problems.

Also Ive only worn a dress like 2 or 3 times/days.

>Theres some things I have in common with MtFs, I can say this at least. But whats your thoughts on this?
>The detransitioners I see in my practice are all female, and they are all in their early twenties.
The article you posted is completely, totally irrelevant to your situation. The people the writer is describing are all (not "a majority", not "almost all", literally every single one) ex-FtM. That doesn't mean transition is necessarily right for you. It does mean that you don't have to worry about what happened to these people happening to you.

I guess so. It could be this person works specifically on FtM, but that seems pretty specific.

I guess testosterone is different, those people are different. Maybe had different influences. Got abused more than AMABs.

>Im a national socialist and loved Hitler since I was 12
>Trans
Okay I gotta hear this one.

lol
Wouldnt Hitler hate tranners?