These characters ruined Berserk

these characters ruined Berserk

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I disagree.

No.
They were better done than the Band of the Hawk in terms of giving Guts a group of people that support him and that he cares about as a way to bind him to the world.

>Cunny and crazy nympho bad
I disagree

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These characters were only a byproduct of Miura's poor planning of the story, he's the one who ultimately ruined the story by meandering through pointless filler arcs and RPG sidequests and losing side of his endgame.

They were great characters but they should have been confined to their own arcs. Guts should have been a lone swordsman, maybe with Puck before he was delegated to side show clown.

what's the point of Isidro even being something?

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Would’ve been nice if the payoff was seeing him grow up to be a strong swordsman like guts but never happened like many other things

even young guts after being Donovaned could beat him

Do Legolas and Naruto have any relevance at all in this story? Did Miura actually think the bottom of the barrel comedy from Naruto is funny or is just aware of the mental level of his audience?

Guts felt like a kid in a horrible world. Isidro feels like he is from a different manga. I wonder how the story had played out if Rickert had joined the main party instead of that annoying retard. Maybe Puck would still be character.

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an outlet for miuras bad humour

She saved Berserk

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>Berserk's main theme is how friendship and people looking out for each other can help you deal with all the shit life throws at you
>This is why Guts' life was shit in his childhood, because he didn't have a family and was betrayed by his adoptive father
>This is why the band of the hawk was so important to him, because he found a group of people who could consider family
>This is why Puck was vital for Guts since he was his only companion for so long and genuinely cared about him
>This is why Guts was so important to Griffith, because he was his only true friend
>This is why the torturers found peace with Mozgus, because he genuinely cared about them and showed them kindness
>This is why Serpico and Farnese looked out for each other since both grew up without a family that loved them
>This is also why Snail Duke fell to despair and became an apostle, but was still human enough to not sacrifice his daughter, the only light of his life
>BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, SERPICO, FARNESE AND THE KIDS RUINED MUH GRIMDARK BERSERK WHERE'S GUTS BROODING AND CRIPPLE HIMSELF BY KILLING APOSTLES AND BEING EDGY AS FUCK, GUTS SHOULD NEVER BE HAPPY AGAIN
You should be flayed alive

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Agreed. The series should have been Guts as a edgy loner maniac on a futile revenge quest.

Really there should have only been 1-2 more arcs max after golden age.

Corona killed this comic... or was it the clot shot?

>BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, SERPICO, FARNESE AND THE KIDS RUINED MUH GRIMDARK BERSERK WHERE'S GUTS BROODING AND CRIPPLE HIMSELF BY KILLING APOSTLES AND BEING EDGY AS FUCK, GUTS SHOULD NEVER BE HAPPY AGAIN
No one is saying this. People don't like them because they're shit. If you enjoy the bottom of the barrel shounen humour and constant star wars 4th wall references then i guess it's fine. There were a lot of non edgy stuff i Berserk before these retards showed up.

>If you enjoy the bottom of the barrel shounen humour
Always been there since Black Swordsman together with fanservice, just admit you want your torture porn already

Guts having friends is not the problem. The problem is most of these characters are poorly written

These characters saved Berserk

So was every pre-Eclipse side character except Judeau, let's not kid ourselves here.

based

Even Corkus was more of a character than Isidro.

90% of the band of the hawk were cardboard cutouts.
Pippin, Corkus, Gaston, Rickert etc. were one note characters that worked as a part of a bigger whole just like Guts' party did, the only people in the entire band that were actual characters were Griffith, Casca and Judeau.
By contrast the only characters you can say are shallow in that group are Isma, because she was the last to join, and maybe Isidro.
The vast majority of Berserk characters are cardboard cutouts that only exist to elevate other characters, the new band of the hawk is made up of one note literal whos but I don't see you people complain about that, just like I don't see you complain about the Tapasa or Daiba being cardboard cutouts for Silat, who's also somebody who had to wait for years before he could be considered an actual character.

I like how they're ordered from less harmful to walking stake-killer from left to right