Define music

Define music

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Anything I personally think sounds good is music

not rap

rap

The pounding.

underapreciated thread

something to pass the time with

that which is perceived as music by the listener or intended be music by the performer or composer

and if that's too circular, sound which conveys something other than just semantic meaning or information about one's surroundings, which is not merely incidental but is created or listened to intentionally

melody, harmony, rhythm

those can be elements of music, but they're neither necessary nor sufficient

Artificially manifested sounds, perhaps? I don't necessarily agree with Cage; I think art inherently must be deliberate, or if not that, *art*ificial. There are methods of writing music by way of random chance, and I think itd be remiss to say that that isn't art.

looping noise layered with non-repeting sequenced noise

fuck off

Thanks to Mr Cage, all aural stimulation perceived by the listener as music is music.

grow up and learn something

I think the idea was around before that
>I think art inherently must be deliberate
So arranged, edited field recordings would count (i.e. Luc Ferrari) but not just listening to whatever's happening? I don't think that really stands up to scrutiny

>the idea was around before that
possibly, but you couldn't say you were listening to a particular composition whenever you wanted

Duchamp kinda set the stage for that already.

blow it out ur ass

>hurr durr