Right-wing "music"

Can the smiths be considered a right wing bands of only one off them was a chud?

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buddy, Angel of Death isn't pro-Nazi

???
Watch his Boiler Room BLM interview

Mozza IS the Smiths. the rest are disposable.

This is kino

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I don't feel like it. Why don't you provide for me the specific quotes that led you to believe he's right-wing so I'm not forced to dismiss you for being unable to substantiate your claims?

nobody said it was, but Slayer are clearly right wing.

Slayer are clearly left wing
now we are at an impasse until you substantiate your claim

Nah if you haven't seen the video yet you probably aren't that invested in his music anyways. Some other user can link

youtu.be/IXsOJsXpDcE

youtu.be/s9MeCh30Hvg

>Jesus is King
>”Right wing”
Tell me you’re a transgender discord user without telling me you’re a transgender discord user

God is le right wing

being against BLM isn't necessarily right-wing

>Johnny Rebel is bad
arguably the funniest musician of the past 100 years to be honest

JIK is AOTY 2019

ok so you have no argument, thanks for clarifying

jesus is king is really good

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wow they covered Minor Threat
famous right-wing band Minor Threat that is definitely not liked by literally everyone that likes hardcore

Yes but to go into the panel with a directly anti-leftist stance and than do a walk-out is a rejection of the status quo or, as I originally said, covertly-rightwing
There was never an argument, dumb faggot. Watch the video.

look at this total cunt here
chuds are not even trying now

Even if that's true, "the left" can't make art either, just propoganda. Music is inherently liberal.

Slayer isn't right wing. There's nothing that preaches traditional values about them.

Best way to put it for politically charged nigger faggots.

save the sarcasm. how many left wing bands do you think would cover a pro-white song?

go to bed Johnny

nazi punks fuck off

this.
schizo Roger Waters is clearly right wing half of the time. then pretends that he isnt.
his concert is hilarious as he goose steps around the stage.

>right wing is the same as conservative

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it must be devastating as a left wing tranny to find out Morrissey is one step away from being a Nazi.
have you thrown away your Smiths CDs?

when I say substantiate your claims, I want you to tell us WHY you think his stance is anti-leftist. Anyone can say anything is anything. I don't see how it's anti-leftist to observe that black people in the UK are different than black people in the US and experience racism differently, talking about white people not understanding and being afraid of black people, saying blackness is a social construct
his criticism of BLM seems to be that it's not just a police issue, it's a holistic race relation issue that virtue signaling won't solve
if you take that as right-wing you have the same level of understanding as the dummies in the audience getting mad

Zoomer trannies out themselves so quickly whenever they talk about Christianity. They’re fucking obsessed with it and their opinions on it are uniquely stupid. You can go on RYM and find people who in the same post will say
>This band is bad because they are anti-abrahamic and bigoted against jews and muslims
>But THIS band good because their lyrics are anti-Christian

the believes of the left is heavily related to thr freedom of the self, which gives way for a huge range of concepts to be expressed through art instead of just "propaganda" or agendas

that's why some of the most revolutionary artists nowadays are left-wing

>NOOOO NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A NUANCED VIEW OF THINGS
i have to tell you that Slayer pre-dates whatever culture war propaganda has rotted your brain and this sort of identity politics is a false narrative that has been pushed to keep you angry and dumb and mad at poor minorities instead of the rich people controlling the world

go back to wherever you came from you subhuman loser. You stick out like a sore thumb.

It may be true that artists on average are more "liberal" than others, but the more leftism progresses the more dysfunctional it becomes, and people who were considered leftists decades ago are considered nazis today because the goalposts have shifted so much since then. The old world of ultra-fascist far-right super nazi christians created Western civilization, and today's leftist culture creates things like WAP.

>right wing music is shi ..
youtu.be/GGU1P6lBW6Q

??? You lost faggot

Just posting this album, please continue.

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It didn't sound like an anti-leftist stance at all

He just said that the root of the problem is not in the police but inside black people's own traditions. He even said there's a lot of homophobia within black communities, how is that not leftist.

>no Nokturnal Mortum
>no NON
>no Death In June
>no traditional folk music
>no classical, like all of it, practically except whatever Schoenberg was.

shit list user. get better taste.

i mean fascism is cringe shit so

>left wing
>revolutionary
You don't risk your job, your career, or your livelihood for repeating left-wing talking points. You're not fighting the system, you are the system.

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I wasn't aware you can be fired for talking about regressive tax rates

What in the sam hyde is this strawman?

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You're saying right-wing talking points get you fired. Which ones? Flat tax rate? Decreasing welfare? Environmental deregulation? Getting rid of Medicare? Supporting a larger defense budget?

>Death In June
Why does every rightoid have to namecheck these ludicrous whining old farts, do they pay well?

Well, let's tally up the score:
the far left can push its talking points in the mainstream with gov and corporate support, they can organize and monopolize authoritative positions in either with minimal to zero harassment. They can also censor, harass and dox their opposition.
The right cannot. The right is held to a different standard. Not that anyone should do these things, but its abundantly obvious the treatment is asymmetrical and heavily skewed towards protecting and enabling radical leftism. The far right is the most silenced and opposed group out of them all, you are not allowed the same positions as the far left. You will not receive the same treatment as the far left, the risks for you spreading your talking points are much greater. If your a normie right winger, you're not as targeted, but you will still be harassed and receive the same asymmetrical treatment. Far leftists can thus fire you under any pre-text and purge you from your companies if they manage to pry their way into authoritative positions.

Actually youd probably risk your career if you suggested workers unionizing or seizing the means of production from their boss and assuming control of the company. Yeah dude i dont think thatd fly man, and just because amazon sells rainbow flag bumper stickers (along with confederate flag ones) doesnt mean theyre "left"

why have you pivoted away from clarifying what the talking points that get you fired are? I'm sorry to say that we aren't dumb enough on this board to be fooled by your scaremongering and your Jewish rhetoric, we shall require facts and logic

>anthropology
>illegal immigration
>racial tribalism - how groups are allowed to collectivize for their interests, hire solely their own, etc. except for white people
>grievance politics as a pathos appeal to absolve all personal accountability
>demonization of nationalism based on grievance politics

Why is it always hypnagogic popsters?

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ok so it's literally just racism
>illegal immigration
>Obama deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants as recent as 2016
>the fucking wall
yeah you're literally just having a fit because people don't like it when you're racist in public

>literally titled an album after a leftist meme

>demonization of nationalism

ETHNOnationalism is demonized
we fly flags fucking everywhere. they sing the anthem before sports matches all the time
you are actually doing the right a massive disservice because all you care about is racism and you use "right wing" as a synonym for your racist ideology. but keep doing the left's work for them I suppose, it's for the best if they win

>yet another guilt-shaming pathos appeal
You're missing the point, illegal immigration poses unavoidable logistical problems, security risks, and violation of sovereignty.

>yeah you're literally just having a fit because people don't like it when you're racist in public

The far left can be racist to white people and maintain their jobs, or even get promoted. The reverse for the far right has the opposite effect. I don't care for censorship, people should be able to voice their thoughts, but the asymmetrical standards need to end, or things will get bloody. You wanna be racist to me? Fine, I don't really give a shit, but you should only be allowed to throw punches you can take in return.

>You're missing the point, illegal immigration poses unavoidable logistical problems, security risks, and violation of sovereignty.
not an argument we were having, please take your adderall

as for the rest of your post, I'm not sure that you being angry and aggrieved over race and identity politics does anything to dispel the notion that you are a seething racist

>shit tier gaslighting
can't wait to make you face the wall

do you think there's a problem within your movement when you default to impotent power fantasies instead actual achievable goals and policy measures

>impotent power fantasies
projecting much?
>actual achievable goals and policy measures
Ah yes, like the ever nebulous, ever present "systemic racism" that has no objective criteria for being solvable and is used as a cudgel to leverage more social power to manipulative, gaslighting sociopaths like yourself. There's no point in arguing with a intellectually dishonest moral relativist, so where diplomacy fails...

Why do people call Conservatives the only right-wing ideology? Fascists and Libertarians out rock and are more degenerate than Lefties, stop cherry-picking.

Igor Stravinsky: fascist (Mussolini)
James Brown: conservative (Nixon)
Elvis Presley: conservative (Nixon)
Frank Zappa: libertarian
Christian Vander (Magma): nazi (Hitler)
Maureen Tucker (Velvet Underground): libertarian (Tea Party)
Nico (Velvet Underground): nazi tendencies?
Eric Clapton (Cream): conservative (Powell), white separatism
Iggy Pop (The Stooges): conservative (Reagan)
Johnny Ramone (Ramones): conservative (Bush)
Neil Peart (Rush): libertarian
Meat Loaf: conservative (Romney)
Ian Curtis (Joy Division): conservative (Thatcher)
Danny Elfman (Oingo Boingo): "right-wing patriotic"
Prince: conservative (Boschwitz)
Morrisey (The Smiths): conservative (UKIP)
Dave Mustaine (Megadeth): conservative (Santorum)
Buzz Osborne (Melvins): classical liberal
MF DOOM (Madvillain): conservative (McCain)
Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins): conservative (Trump)
Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day): libertarian
David Bowie: fascist
Douglas Pearce (Death in June): fascist
Boyd Rice (Death in June): fascist
Neil Young: "not a liberal or a conservative" (kind of supported Reagan)
Kate Bush: conservative (supported May)
Roger McGuinn (The Byrds): conservative (Carson)
Big Boi (OutKast): libertarian (Johnson)
Lou Reed (Velvet Underground): self-described "fascist liberal"
Bryan Ferry (Roxy Music): conservative (Cameron)
Phil Collins (Genesis): conservative
Gary Numan: conservative (Thatcher)
Josh Home (Kyuss, Queens of the Stone Age, Them Crooked Vultures): libertarian
Noel Gallagher (Oasis): conservative
Varg Vikernes (Burzum): racialist
Richard Wagner: proto-nazi
James Hetfield (Metallica): conservative
Dave Smalley (Dag Nasty): conservative
Glenn Danzig (Misfits): conservative
Peter Steele (Type O Negative): conservative
Ted Nugent: conservative
Luigi Russolo: fascist
Kanye West: conservative (Trump)
Ian Anderson (Jehtro Tull): conservative

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>>impotent power fantasies
>projecting much?
do you read your own posts? you realize you're the only one fantasizing about some revolution where you win and get to execute everyone who hurt your feelings?
do you further realize that the left actually does have a comprehensive policy agenda for criminal justice and police reform and that your view of the world comes entirely from demented Any Forums memes?

Any examples of prominent public people identifying as nationalists?

>do you read your own posts? you realize you're the only one fantasizing about some revolution where you win and get to execute everyone who hurt your feelings?
I don't give a shit about feelings, I care about the double standards-- the caging and silencing of opposition as they poke through the cages with sticks incessantly, then crying to daddy gov when they get slapped

>do you further realize that the left actually does have a comprehensive policy agenda for criminal justice and police reform and that your view of the world comes entirely from demented Any Forums memes?
One that doesn't infringe on other people's rights, or individual sovereignty? Do tell...

Not even the user you're replying to, but come on. Araya's jokes about electrocuting gays? Literally every thing about Kerry King's persona? Hannemann's obsession with totenkopfs? Ever heard of "Slaytanic Wehrmacht"? The reichsadler-inspired logo??? The connection Hannemann had with Antichrist Kramer? They weren't your stereotypical conservatives, that's for sure, but pretending they weren't way closer to the right is just disingenous and ignorant of the band's history.

I'm sure you can find some amongto give a better answer, you are attempting to employ semantic trickery
identifying as a nationalist has historically been done by far-right racists trying to make their views seem less extreme to sneak them into the mainstream
nationalism, as in loving your country, is in no way demonized. however, self-identification as a nationalist is an obvious far-right thing. you will probably deny this as you do with every fact that is inconvenient for you.
not to mention that I was arguing the claim that nationalism is demonized in the public eye, and my ability to compose a list of self-described nationalist public figures on the fly is entirely irrelevant. Right wing politicians and Fox News don't exist to you I guess, you have just never seen any nationalist sentiment publically expressed ever
you never saw the Air Force flyover at a football game or sang I'm Proud to be an American at a pep rally. that's kind of wild and I can see how that experience would lead you to this logically untenable belief that there is no nationalism allowed

>Christian Vander (Magma): nazi (Hitler)
>Danny Elfman (Oingo Boingo): "right-wing patriotic"
sources? I'm actually interested, since I tried looking up that Christian Vander thing and got nothing

why are you pointing to all this?
could it be that you can't point to them saying "yeah we're right-wing lol"

>to give a better answer, you are attempting to employ semantic trickery
Projection. The conversation is which right-wing points of view get you demonized. You're tacitly admitting that "I am a nationalist" is one of these points, but then go right into justifying why this is the case

Who gives a shit if someone's racist to you?
Is your race a sacred cow?
If it is, then its a religious belief.
What then, would make your religious beliefs any more valid than anyone elses?
What is the first amendment?
How can you hold that belief, and then maintain that you have the right to slaughter other people's sacred cows.
What if their race is a sacred cow to them?
Should one be able to enforce there views on the other?

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dude you have to let it go
I just wanted to press you into admitting the right wing talking points you were referencing were simply racism and nothing else, which you did(I don't care if you don't want to admit your thinly veiled racism is racism)
I really have no patience, time or interest to hear your deranged and incoherent thoughts on every leftist talking point and the amount of effort I would have to expend to get an ideologue as brain-damaged and bad-faith as you to attain any understanding of these ideas would be absolutely herculean. this is a common thing rightoids do, you just (You) endlessly making up new shit to argue about until the other person gets bored and then you have a circlejerk with your fellow newfags and pretend you won
I already pwned you precisely as much as I set out to.

Nancy Punks Fuck Off

this is the shittiest strawman you could've possibly constructed
these are the intellectual heavyweights of the right, folks
actually I just don't think people should be oppressed for no good reason and I'm smart enough to discern your reasons for racism aren't good ones (that is, they are not rationally justified or justifiable)

>I have no argument, nor do I have the wit to articulate a logically sound rebuttal
Reddit's down the hall and to the left

how does saying "I hate niggers" oppress anybody? Genuine question

>. The conversation is which right-wing points of view get you demonized
Yes.
>You're tacitly admitting that "I am a nationalist" is one of these points
Yes. You're just angrily restating my argument, is there a part you disagreed with? I'm saying that saying "I'm a nationalist" is bad not because nationalism is demonized but because it's a phrase used by racism
see, my thesis isn't that there are no right-wing talking points that get you fired, my thesis is that all of those talking points are actually just hate speech

What makes you believe you deserve to be beyond criticism and ridicule?
There is no argument you can provide other than what you consider sacrosanct is more holy than someone else's beliefs

>is bad not because nationalism is demonized but because it's a phrase used by racism
Nationalism *is* demonized because it's a phrase used by racism. It is not in itself hate speech, it is just associated with hate speech, like every other right-wing idea -- see libs' perception of the trucker convoy for example

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hate speech is a spook neologism used by moral relativists to manipulate the debating landscape by giving them absolute moral authority.
Answer this: Do you have a god complex?

>Magma has been criticised for supposedly embracing fascist aesthetics and ideology in their art, accusations the band has called a "myth" and attributed to journalistic misrepresentations of their performance style.[19] However, in an interview with Richie Unterberger, Gong's Daevid Allen remembered that Christian Vander "had swastika flags all over his bedroom and pictures of Hitler and would leap up and do kind of imitation Hitler speeches in the middle of his drum solo".[20] Vander has also been under attack for a 1970 interview in which he had described the people of India and Africa as "degenerates".[21][22]
There even swastikas in the artwork.
Maybe is "joke" because like Zizek he have pictures of Mussolini in his bedroom and he doesnt support lefty politics ;-)

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>logically sound rebuttal
to you asking me to elucidate every leftist policy goal
you want a rebuttal to your question
is english like an eight language to you? is this a badly programmed chatbot?
I'm not concerned about what you want to say. I'm concerned about government and society giving certain people an unfair shake and treating them badly. I hope you know that nearly every problem affecting black people stems from the fact that white people fucked up their civilization irreparably for our own profit
what makes you believe this strawman is an actual position people hold? (it's your lack of intelligence)

I will. We're all Patriots here

>Nationalism *is* demonized because it's a phrase used by racism.
the term nationalism, yes
loving your country, however (holding nationalist sentiment) is not. you know, if you read my posts before seething you might find I went over this already
>see libs' perception of the trucker convoy for example
I've seen the Any Forums threads about the convoy
the association from hate speech isn't being invented by liberals, it's a product of all the actual hate speech that retards on the right can't help but spewing constantly.

>I'm not concerned about what you want to say. I'm concerned about government and society giving certain people an unfair shake and treating them badly
Like discriminating against whites in hiring processes?

>loving your country, however (holding nationalist sentiment) is not
Supporting your country's interest over the world as a whole is seen as bad. Consider Brexit support.
>the association from hate speech isn't being invented by liberals, it's a product of all the actual hate speech that retards on the right can't help but spewing constantly
the association absolutely is invented by liberals, you're just pointing out that it is based on something instead of being made up completely, which is true of basically every viewpoint

if that was a real thing that happened, yes. overall I'm not really in favor of affirmative action, it's kind of a surface-level fix. we can't just say "hire minorities", we should encourage minorities to become highly-qualified and develop employable skills. of course, many of them already do, so at the same time we need to correct cultural perceptions that cause that to go overlooked

Slayer literally dedicated their fastest song to Rush Limbaugh
youtube.com/watch?v=Gvyq6xYPwos

>Consider Brexit support.
glad you mentioned that, if nationalist sentiment is demonized and suppressed how did Brexit even happen? or, to go a step further, the Golden Dawn or any far-right Euro nationalist party? coincidentally those Golden Dawn guys are the ones tainting the name of nationalism
>you're just pointing out that it is based on something
you are genuinely mad at pattern recognition and cause and effect at this point

>glad you mentioned that, if nationalist sentiment is demonized and suppressed how did Brexit even happen
What kind of question is that? It had majority support despite being blatantly shilled against by basically every cultural/political institution. The discussion is not about how right wing ideas are physically impossible, it's about how they are demonized

>if that was a real thing that happened, yes
It is

so then what do you mean by demonized? people disagree with you? that's a natural state of affairs as far as I can tell. if you can pass nationalist legislation through a popular vote then clearly you are not being suppressed in any meaningful sense, here

I mean the same thing as "define:demonize"
>portray as wicked and threatening.
What do *you* mean by demonized?

rush, ramones, kiss

morrissey only became right-wing later

Is this the peak of left-wing music?

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nice headcanon

But capitalism belongs to traditional values, user. Capitalism is inherently a mode of social order.

>inb4 user replies with ">right wing is the same as capitalism"
Ok then tell us what right-wing values are

Elfman: "I've traveled around the world. I left thinking I was a revolutionary. I came back real right-wing patriotic. Since then, I've kind of mellowed in between."

Been following Elfman for a while now and currently he seems really progressive. Super anti-Trump too. Your post lost all credibility.

>Capitalism is inherently a mode of social order.
USSR was right-wing and conservative?

most artists don't talk about their political affiliation.

>currently he seems really progressive.
Yeah, but he was right-wing when he produced the music. If he does music now it would be shit for it

the album he released last year is pretty fucking great actually

If it is then thats sad.

Bob Dylan anyone????

What about Azealia Banks and Nico? Two very talented ladies.

incels going off with the off-topic shit ITT

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as someone who went through quite a bit of a green day phase several years ago i can assure you that billie joe is not "libertarian" and he definitely isn't right wing, he went on anti trump rants at every show in like 2016-17 and hated bush before that

Imagine not being able to see that Boyd Rice is a career troll or that Death In June is literally a homosexual band that has a strong Nazi imagery fetish

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True

Where is ariel pink you faggot? Die

>Blocks your path

While yes he was liberal for the time, I don’t think he’d be very accepted amongst commie and/or leftist scum today.

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And megadeth

Not every right wing artist is open about it. Plus Fagtano deletes anyone who comes out as right wing. He deleted his deathspell omega review for example.

Bowie Station to Station

Haven't even heard of more than half this shit so maybe the libs are right

bowie wasnt serious about the fascism for thin white duke. it was just a provactive artistic persona that he ended up regretting anyway. he ended up marrying a black woman after all

Fascist and right-wing are not the same thing

burzum is good
JIK and DONDA are good, especially DONDA
Jon Maus is good
NXP is ok

>that tranny
>right wing

jik is album of the year

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People who've had their brains melted by any propaganda machine inherently make shit music because political issues is all they can think about. The only reason the "left" even gets to make music and still be considered close to palatable is because their politics are in vogue.

Honestly entertainers need to get over themselves and step down from being extremely political. It's all just lip service to Californian armchair activists who don't actually care about any of the topics they preach about.

Like most sane people after a certain age.

if morrissey at 20 knew how britain would be now he wouldve been right wing like he is now so your point is retarded. its the same person

marrying non white women is the most right wing thing you can do. white men are the most prolific race mixers in all of history

>its the same person
it's not, morissey is only one member of The Smiths, Johnny Marr isn't right-wing

morrissey is responsible for the sound of the smiths, and johnny marr is the guitarist. listen to morrisseys solo work and you will know this to be true especially viva hate

the tories are the ones ruining britain, i think morrissey's just a retard

tories and labour are no different. actually they are slightly, labour would tax everyone harder. britain was ruined decades ago irreparably and its just a corpse now

>britain was ruined decades ago irreparably and its just a corpse now
yes, by Margaret Thatcher

Libtards never recovered from this post…

oh no she closed the coal mines and made everyone get jobs that dont kill them!!
it actually got murdered by tony blair and new labour

I'd also add the lead singer of FEAR(atleast when he wrote his music originally) and the entirity of the band Gang Green, who, when asked to write a political song by Jello Biafra, wrote "Kill a Commie" because they just wanted him to fuck off